[PLUG] v3 + linux mandrake

[kirk faulkner]

----- Original Message -----
From: "David" <calx@purdue.edu>
To: "Dave Jones" <dajones@purdue.edu>
Cc: "kirk faulkner" <kfaulkn1@purdue.edu>; <plug@csociety.purdue.edu>
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [PLUG] v3 + linux mandrake


> > Xfree86 3.3.6 performs well in all tasks except for opengl stuff and
> > commercial games such as quake3 or soldier of fortune. (Howeber, quake2
> > runs beautifully)
>
> Last I tried it, XF86 3.3.6 worked fine for me. Obviously not as good as
> windows performance but well nonetheless. I am not an xtreme gamer, so I
> am not sure that my standards are very high. :) I had the exact opposite
> reaction, ie, commercial games ran better than Q2.

i'm really not "extreme" but i do play my share of q3.  i play it now in
windows but i wanted to try it in linux.
right now i get around 80 fps in q3 and while i know it won't be that much
in linux i heard that ping times are
reduced in linux compared to windows so thats why i wanted to try it.


>
> > screen...perhaps Xfree4.01 fixes some of these issues?....
>
> Well, if you are using a semi-large monitor (21") and want to do 1600x1200
> resolution (maybe higher) at 24bpp then you *might* be out of luck
> with X4.0.1 There seems to be a bug with such a setup. Seems to screw up
> the video card at softboot. (fixed with a machine reboot) The screen is
> completely useless. FWIW, X4.0.0 works fine on the same setup.

well my monitor is 19" and 1600x1200 while nice is unreasonable and
unnecessary for me.  i run in 800x600 in q3.
so should i gry and upgrade to X4.0.0 and leave X4.0.1 alone?

>
> > > mandrake has v3 generic support but i don't know if their driver
supports glide/opengl games.  in the control panel it does have mesa morph3d
and mesa gears that i can run but i don't think that will help me.  if
someone has a v3 comfigured correctly so for example so i can play q3/ut/etc
> > > can you tell me step by step how you did it?
>
> I am pretty sure that with Mandrake 7.1 you have to modprobe 3dfx to get
> the user available module. (Which will allow you to run Glide apps as a
> user other than root.)
>
> You also need the Glide libraries.
>

i installed some glide libraries from the 3dfx linux driver site.  i used
rpm --rebuild Device3dfx-2.3-5.src.rpm and it seemed to install but
i got a "bad exit status from var/tmp/rpm-tmp.56984 (%Install)".  according
to the site after rpm'ing that there should be another module
Device3dfx-2.3-4.i386.rpm but
when i looked in the rpm tree for it all there was was a folder with some
3dfx *.c files in it but no other rpm file to install.  i did install the
Glide_SDK-2.2-16.i386.rpm because it is supposed to contail header files
necessary for compiling mesa software.

> You must also install Mesa, which are OpenGL-like libraries. OpenUT
> uses *your* Mesa libs and Quake3 I believe uses its own. If you get either
> of them running in a window (not good very slow since X3.x doesn't have
> DRI), then you might have to (at a shell prompt you are going to execute
> the game from) export MESA_GLX_FX=fullscreen.
>

yeah i need to get mesa but i was hoping to get at least the drivers
installed then worry about mesa but i can't even get gaming drivers
installed.
maybe i need to upgrade to kernel 2.2.15?

> Links to the packages:
>
>
ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/mandrake/7.1/Mandrake/RPMS2/Device3Dfx
-2.3.4-5mdk.i586.rpm
>
ftp://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/mandrake/7.1/Mandrake/RPMS/Glide_V3-2.
60.15-3mdk.i586.rpm
> XFree86-glide-module-4.0-6mdk.i586.rpm
> Mesa-3.1-14mdk.i586.rpm
> Mesa-common-3.1-14mdk.i586.rpm
>
> These are just things off the top of my head that I remember dealing with
> last year. I am not very familiar with Mandrake, and I don't know how the
> packages are setup by default.

neither do i.  i've only had mandrake installed two days and only the v3 is
giving me gaming problems.  i'm still learning the basics and i was hoping
somebody already figured all this out.  sounds like i need to invest in
another graphics card.
>
> > > the kernel is 2.2.15 and the xfree86 version is 3.3.6.  i have an
athlon 650, 192 ram (for some reason linux doesn't recognize all of it),
sound blaster 128, v3 2000 pci, 10 gig hard drive (dual win/linux boot), tv
card.  thanks for any help you can give me.
>
> If you happen to use lilo (unlikely since MDK comes with grub):
> http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/hardware/ramdetect.html
>
> I don't know anything about grub other than it looks really nice. :)
>
> David
>
>
>
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