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[A Braunsdorf]

In message <20001016152157.K95891@puck.firepipe.net>, Will Andrews writes:
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 03:05:21PM -0500, A Braunsdorf wrote:
> > It's not an OS thing, it's a UI thing, and X, Win32, and MacOS X
> > pretty much >are< the field.
> 
> Sorry, no.  FreeBSD has excellent support for UI.  It comes through the
> fact it has C++ exceptions support (used extensively by your favorite
> UIs), X support, yadda yadda.  If Linux can run it, FreeBSD should be
> able to, too.  That is unless their code is unportable and sucks (see
> also svgalib).

You're not listening.  What I said agrees with you- if their code
didn't suck, covering "Linux" (really X), MS Windows, and MacOS X
>would< be sufficient.

> Gee, you talk about a lot of other environments as though you've
> actually used them but then go on to sing your praises for OpenStep.
> Well gosh damn it, I'm pretty sure you're just quite happy with what
> you've got running there.   ;->

I've used a lot of environments, Will.  I've been programming
computers longer than you've been breathing, right?

As for being happy with what I'm running, if you're speaking of
OPENSTEP, profoundly happy.  If you're speaking of the current
state of other UNIX GUI software, I'm decidedly not.

I'm using X (as we speak!) trying to figure out how to get this
GNUstep thing really working so we can save the world.  OPENSTEP's
malfunction is not being open source.  That's what GNUstep is
fixing.

> Although I'm not by any means a KDE/GNOME/<insert environment here> fan,
> I do appreciate the power, style, and sleekness afforded step
> environments, such as Window Maker.  ;-)

Window Maker is not GNUstep.  It doesn't act like an OPENSTEP
desktop, though it sort of looks like it, and it's not even
implemented as a GNUstep application.  Not being able to tell the
difference might be a warning sign about your qualifications. :-)

I'm not talking about window dressing here.  OPENSTEP is much bigger
than some flimsy skin draped over crappy old X programs.  It needn't
look like a NeXT either, for that matter.

ab