[PLUG] computer lockups

Clinton Ecker phaedo@purdue.edu
Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:10:48 -0500


This is really weird...one of my machines would do this
every 1-2 days last week so I just pulled out another
machine to use as my router and its been doing fine. Weird..

-----Original Message-----
From: plug-admin@csociety.purdue.edu
[mailto:plug-admin@csociety.purdue.edu]On Behalf Of Christopher Galik
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:33 PM
To: plug@csociety.purdue.edu
Subject: Re: [PLUG] computer lockups


Woops..I think i sent out a blank message.  I was going to mention that my
ip
masq system sometimes goes to sleep and refuses to wake up.  By 'goes to
sleep' I mean that I can't log in to it, be it by ssh, telnet, rlogin, ftp,
http, whatever.  However, it still replies to pings, and the masquerading
does not go down.  i.e. all the other computers on the network still have
access to the outside network.  At first I thought maybe the computer's
power
management was kicking in, but power management was turned off.  Any
thoughts?

-c

On Friday 06 April 2001 09:23, you wrote:
> Woah, dude! the same thing happened to me today!  I came back to find my
> GUI locked up... I just cold booted though.....probably shouldn't have
> though
>
> :-)
>
> -chuck
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Minster <sminster@purdue.edu>
> To: Plug <plug@csociety.purdue.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:34 PM
> Subject: [PLUG] computer lockups
>
> > I came home from class today to find my Linux computer somewhat frozen.
> > I say somewhat because the GUI did not respond at all (so it looked like
> > it was locked up), but it still responded to pings and it routed
packets.
> > However, I couldn't create a new ssh session (and I didn't already have
>
> one
>
> > up).  I suspect that the problem was that it couldn't (for some reason)
> > create a new process (since sshd forks to handle each session).  After I
> > cold rebooted, there were no messages in any log files.  The logging
just
> > stopped after a certain point, then started up again with the boot logs.
>
> So
>
> > either the logging daemon stopped working, or nothing made any logs
after
> > the point that it froze.
> >
> > Oddly enough, I can make my Windows 2000 computer do the same thing
under
> > certain circumstances.  One game I have has an odd bug that sometimes
>
> causes
>
> > the same result.  As near as I can tell, the computer is still there,
but
> > must be heavily loaded since typing on a telnet login is incredibly
slow.
> > It also displays the same problem of not being able to create any new
> > processes.  As a result, I can't even kill the program that creates this
> > problem (so I don't know if it's the program or the system).
> >
> > These two computers are both x86, but that's about their only
similarity.
> > Is it possible that both Win2k and Linux have a similar bug, or is it
not
>
> OS
>
> > dependent but some flaw somewhere else?  Or is it just coincidence?  I'd
> > consider bad hardware, but to see the same type of thing on two
different
> > systems raises some questions.  In any case, it's an extremely rare
> > thing, since I have to really work to make it happen on my Win2k
> > computer, and
>
> have
>
> > no idea what causes it on my Linux computer (it was screensaving when it
>
> did
>
> > it).
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas about what this could be?  It's not a huge
> > deal since it doesn't happen very often, but it would be nice to not
have
> > it happen at all.
> >
> > ----
> > Scott Minster
> > sminster@purdue.edu
> > http://mland.dhs.org/
> > icq://18777468/
> >
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