[PLUG] Fw: ResNet Off-Campus DSL issues...
Brent Meshier
brent@meshier.com
Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:39:02 -0500
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MessageYes, there is a mailing list to discuss these issues:
http://www.purdueonline.com/mailman/listinfo/resnet
--Brent
-----Original Message-----
From: plug-admin@csociety.purdue.edu
[mailto:plug-admin@csociety.purdue.edu]On Behalf Of Michael S Hines
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:56 AM
To: plug@csociety.ecn.purdue.edu
Subject: RE: [PLUG] Fw: ResNet Off-Campus DSL issues...
I don't recall any capping being in my terms of service with Resnet...
and General Telephone (now Verizon)... when I subscribed for DSL services
through Resnet.
I also don't recall any notification of change of terms of service.
When I subscribed with GTE I was given a rated level of service for the
price. I'm sure I've not attained that rated service recently... I've not
been able to get to my CompuServe account via Resnet, and I've not been able
to send/receive mail at any decent rate from home. A modem would have been
faster. I pay too much for this level of service. There are alternatives,
but at the cost of setting up a new account (@home/Insight).
I wonder if Resnet (or any other ISP) is goverened by the Indiana Utility
Regulatory Commission as a public utility?
Is/was there a mailing list set up to discuss Resnet issues? What's the
address?
Mike Hines (a staff Resnet user - off campus)
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Purdue University | FAX 765-496-1380
Management Information | Email mshines@purdue.edu
OS/390 Systems Programmer | Certifications:
1061 Freehafer Hall | CIA, CISA, CFE, CDP
West Lafayette, IN 47907-1061 |
-----Original Message-----
From: plug-admin@csociety.purdue.edu
[mailto:plug-admin@csociety.purdue.edu]On Behalf Of Shwim
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:28 AM
To: plug@csociety.ecn.purdue.edu
Subject: [PLUG] Fw: ResNet Off-Campus DSL issues...
You be the judge. I just recieved this email from Jeff Schwab,
Assistant Director of PDN. I think this is the first official response ever
from ResNet that explains the bandwidth cap limits. I like the way he
explains that we have more bandwidth than IU (should we tell him about other
Universities?) for ResNet. The worst part about this bandwidth capping
policy is the way it is not published or publicized in any way.
Jeff is also exploring the possibility of an Open Forum between ResNet
representatives and ResNet users. If you would be interesting in an Open
Forum, please e-mail me and I will be compiling a list of people who will be
interested. If PLUG as an organization is interested, I'd like one of the
officers to contact me. Also, if anyone here can help spread the word, the
more support we get, the better the chances of getting heard. Bandwidth
capping/shaping seems to be a valid topic and this seems like a chance to
get involved in a real world scenario where applying rules to bandwidth is
important to both administrators and users.
Manny
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Schwab
To: 'MAnny'
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: ResNet Off-Campus DSL issues...
The cap applies to all users, on and off campus. It applies to
anyone who transfers over 100MB a day. After that
point the connection is throttled until the 24 hour rolling total
drops below 100MB. We added 50% more capacity
over the summer. We now have 50% more capacity than IU has for its
resnet. We are continuing to work on ways to fairly share this among all
users.
-----Original Message-----
From: MAnny [mailto:shwim@purdue.edu]
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 9:42 PM
To: jrs@cc.purdue.edu
Subject: Fw: ResNet Off-Campus DSL issues...
I have been waiting for a response to this for two weeks. I sent a
copy to the ResNet email resnet@purdue.edu on Tuesday, 18 September 2001. I
waited approximately one week and did not get a response. I then elevateed
my request to Ken Rice rice@purdue.edu, a known staff member and contact for
ResNet, on Tuesday, 25 September 2001. I have not had a response from
either as of yet. I would like to get a prompt response to this. Please
email me with a timeframe when you can get this information and forward it
to me. If I do not hear from you within a week, I will elevate my inquiry
further. Thank you.
Manny
----- Original Message -----
From: Manny
To: resnet@purdue.edu
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 8:05 PM
Subject: ResNet Off-Campus DSL issues...
I've been noticing increasingly slower transfer speeds on my ResNet
DSL
connection. It seems the only times I can even get anywhere near a
decent speed are between the hours of 3am and 7am. I'm aware of the
problem that there are too many users and not enough bandwidth to go
around, but I've alo noticed that On-Campus ResNet users tend to have
better connection speed until they reach the mysterious bandwidth cap.
I'd like to know more about this Bandwidth Cap, how it works, and who
it
applies to.
Also, I'd like to know if there are any other plans to help alleviate
some of
this bandwidth congestion.
A prompt response to these issues would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Emmanuel Naval
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
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there is a mailing list to discuss these issues:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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urdueonline.com/mailman/listinfo/resnet</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D124343815-02102001>--Brent</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
plug-admin@csociety.purdue.edu =
[mailto:plug-admin@csociety.purdue.edu]<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Michael S Hines<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 02, =
2001 9:56=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> plug@csociety.ecn.purdue.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[PLUG]=20
Fw: ResNet Off-Campus DSL issues...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281164914-02102001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
don't recall any capping being in my terms of service with =
Resnet... and=20
General Telephone (now Verizon)... when I subscribed for DSL =
services=20
through Resnet. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281164914-02102001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281164914-02102001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
also don't recall any notification of change of terms of=20
service.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281164914-02102001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281164914-02102001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>When=20
I subscribed with GTE I was given a rated level of service for the=20
price. I'm sure I've not attained that rated service=20
recently... I've not been able to get to my CompuServe =
account via=20
Resnet, and I've not been able to send/receive mail at any decent rate =
from=20
home. A modem would have been faster. I pay too much =
for=20
this level of service. There are alternatives, but at the cost =
of=20
setting up a new account (@home/Insight). =
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281164914-02102001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281164914-02102001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I=20
wonder if Resnet (or any other ISP) is goverened by the Indiana =
Utility=20
Regulatory Commission as a public utility? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281164914-02102001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281164914-02102001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>Is/was there a mailing list set up to discuss Resnet=20
issues? What's the address? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281164914-02102001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281164914-02102001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Mike=20
Hines (a staff Resnet user - off campus)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D281164914-02102001></SPAN><FONT=20
=
size=3D2>---------------------------------------------------------<BR>Mic=
hael S=20
=
Hines &n=
bsp; =20
| Phone 765-494-5875<BR>Purdue=20
=
University &nb=
sp; =20
| FAX 765-496-1380<BR>Management=20
Information | Email=20
mshines@purdue.edu<BR>OS/390 Systems =
Programmer =20
| Certifications:<BR>1061 Freehafer=20
Hall =
| CIA, CISA, CFE, CDP<BR>West Lafayette, IN =
47907-1061 =20
|<BR> </FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
plug-admin@csociety.purdue.edu =
[mailto:plug-admin@csociety.purdue.edu]<B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Shwim<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:28=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> plug@csociety.ecn.purdue.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
[PLUG] Fw:=20
ResNet Off-Campus DSL issues...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>You be the judge. I just recieved this =
email from=20
Jeff Schwab, Assistant Director of PDN. I think this is the =
first=20
official response ever from ResNet that explains the bandwidth cap=20
limits. I like the way he explains that we have more bandwidth =
than IU=20
(should we tell him about other Universities?) for ResNet. The =
worst=20
part about this bandwidth capping policy is the way it is not =
published or=20
publicized in any way.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Jeff is also exploring the possibility of an =
Open Forum=20
between ResNet representatives and ResNet users. If you would =
be=20
interesting in an Open Forum, please e-mail me and I will be =
compiling a=20
list of people who will be interested. If PLUG as an =
organization is=20
interested, I'd like one of the officers to contact me. Also, =
if=20
anyone here can help spread the word, the more support we get, the =
better=20
the chances of getting heard. Bandwidth capping/shaping seems =
to be a=20
valid topic and this seems like a chance to get involved in a real =
world=20
scenario where applying rules to bandwidth is important to both=20
administrators and users.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Manny</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> =
<A=20
title=3Djrs@purdue.edu href=3D"mailto:jrs@purdue.edu">Jeff =
Schwab</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dshwim@purdue.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:shwim@purdue.edu">'MAnny'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:13 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: ResNet Off-Campus DSL issues...</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D790371113-02102001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2> The cap applies to all users, on and off =
campus. It applies to anyone who transfers over 100MB a =
day. =20
After that</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D790371113-02102001> <FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>point the connection is throttled until the =
24 hour=20
rolling total drops below 100MB. We added 50% more=20
capacity</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D790371113-02102001> <FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>over the summer. We now have 50% more =
capacity=20
than IU has for its resnet. We are continuing to work on ways =
to=20
fairly share this among all users.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
MAnny=20
[mailto:shwim@purdue.edu] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 01, =
2001 9:42=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> jrs@cc.purdue.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Fw: ResNet=20
Off-Campus DSL issues...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have been waiting for a =
response to this=20
for two weeks. I sent a</FONT><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2> copy to=20
the ResNet email <A =
href=3D"mailto:resnet@purdue.edu">resnet@purdue.edu</A>=20
on Tuesday, 18 September 2001. I waited approximately one =
week and=20
did not get a response. I then elevateed my request to Ken =
Rice <A=20
href=3D"mailto:rice@purdue.edu">rice@purdue.edu</A>, a known staff =
member=20
and contact for ResNet, on Tuesday, 25 September 2001. I =
have not=20
had a response from either as of yet. I would like to get a =
prompt=20
response to this. Please email me with a timeframe when you =
can get=20
this information and forward it to me. If I do not hear from =
you=20
within a week, I will elevate my inquiry further. Thank=20
you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Manny</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> =
<A=20
title=3Dshwim@purdue.edu =
href=3D"mailto:shwim@purdue.edu">Manny</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dresnet@purdue.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:resnet@purdue.edu">resnet@purdue.edu</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 18, 2001 8:05 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> ResNet Off-Campus DSL issues...</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've been noticing increasingly =
slower=20
transfer speeds on my ResNet DSL</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>connection. It seems the =
only times I=20
can even get anywhere near a </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>decent speed are between the =
hours of 3am and=20
7am. I'm aware of the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>problem that there are too many =
users and not=20
enough bandwidth to go</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>around, but I've alo noticed that =
On-Campus=20
ResNet users tend to have</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>better connection speed until =
they reach the=20
mysterious bandwidth cap.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'd like to know more about this =
Bandwidth=20
Cap, how it works, and who it</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>applies to. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Also, I'd like to know if there =
are any other=20
plans to help alleviate some of </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>this bandwidth =
congestion.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A prompt response to these issues =
would be=20
greatly appreciated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sincerely,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Emmanuel=20
=
Naval</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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